CASS & KATHRYN MORROW: Husband and Wife Duo Set a New Standard with Morrow Marriage podcast
Cass and Kathryn Morrow are a husband and wife duo who are disrupting divorce all over the world with their unique coaching methods, books and podcast. Cass, an aware, managing, severe narcissist has built his men’s “Marriage Reset” program on 3 main pillars: Peace, Partnership and Passion. Men become so valuable that their wives would be crazy to leave them.
Kathryn is a narcissistic abuse survivor and aims to keep families together. Where many women would leave, Kathryn stayed and fought for her family. Trained in The Gottman Method, Kathryn is pioneering conflict management with her novel approach and methods.
Hosts of the Morrow Marriage podcast, together they have reached over 100 countries and have helped over 4500 couples worldwide.
My program is called The White Picket Fence Project, which is the women’s constituent of a broader program called Morrow Marriage. My husband and I are co-hosts of the Morrow Marriage podcast, which is just over a year old and gets approximately 15,000 downloads per month and is in over 100 countries. We have a combined social media following of about half a million people, and we each have a net worth valued at over a million dollars.
You are on a mission to make men leaders, disrupt divorce, and flip statistics. Tell us about your backstory.
I was raised by an incredibly selfish mother and a father who, I believe, are severe narcissists. The way they raised me, paved the first two decades of my life, after moving out at 18. Failed relationship after relationship, I unknowingly, victimized myself more with every woman. By the time I met Kathryn, she was the one woman I loved the most, yet, destroyed.
After years of emotional and physical abuse towards Kathryn, sexual assault, one fateful night changed the trajectory of my entire life. I was charged with assault, a protective order was in place, and I was forced into growth. One wrong move, and I was going to jail. So, I got to work.
How did you conquer narcissism?
No matter how much work I did, and continue to do, narcissism is a part of me. I have to manage it. The very first realization was simple, yet profound. If I was capable of “love bombs”, then I knew how to love. What I needed to learn next was, how to receive love, and how to love consistently. The order is specific. When I understood how to receive love, I stopped keeping a negative score of all of Kathryn’s efforts, and began to see her consistency. This allowed my mind to open up to being consistent as well.
Reality checks are second, and most important. My mind will still go up and down. I was taught to prove my love in order to be loved. When perception and perspective are managed, you live in a way that is life giving. In other words, giving love without expectation, creates a safe place for your partner. This allows you to be “checked” when you are feeling down and look at the situation from a different angle. Reality checks can be done with safe people in your life, whom you trust.
You and your wife Kathryn Morrow are a powerful duo disrupting divorce with the Marriage Morrow podcast which has helped over 5000 couples globally. What can couples find on your podcast?
We cover the “rules” of marriage as we define them. Breaking away from what people have been led to believe, re-creating a marriage and life that makes your old one laughable. We cover topics such as: it does not take two, communication is not key, how insecurity is a monster and what happens when it grips you, sex is not being used as a weapon, truth surrounding narcissism, the clinical definition of a sexless marriage is missing key points, affairs are your fault, and so much more.
The goal with our podcast was initially to inspire people to think differently. It’s become an outlet for full transparency, leading men and women who listen to strive for more than baseline normal. I believe it’s the fastest growing marriage podcast in the last year. People are tired of conventional methods, exhausted of fluff and quickly realize, they have not tried everything. It’s not only an honor to be trusted with our listener’s marriage, it’s a privilege to cover topics they request. It turns out, we’re not the only ones who struggled with a toxic or sexless marriage. Our goal is to disrupt divorce. When people hear that we came back from the depths of Hell, they know they can too.
Tell us about the “Marriage Reset” program.
This is the my men’s program. Men walk through the necessary steps to “grow up” in 90 days or less. It’s a step x step program, with tools I created to solve problems that break away from society’s examples to “save” a marriage. Men learn to stand out in leadership by learning to stop using Automatic Turn offs — things that build the wall automatically, and prevent conversations to banter, flirts to dates and yes, sex.
They’ll climb my Rejection Ladder, restoring intimacy on all levels. Using my STAT Response, they will learn to structure the direction for their new marriage and stop trying to fix, or save, the broken one. They will learn to become so valuable, their wife would be crazy to leave them. In fact, they’ll want to join him in this incredible new life. Restoring peace, partnership and passion, the new marriage is the beautiful by-product of the new man.
If you want to create a new marriage… finish the sentence.
If you want to create a new marriage, create the new man. As this man, create a life so valuable, your wife will be crazy not to join you.
